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Both the transistorised ones I couldn't fix had different faults. One had scratched the very fine coils with its pendulum, so one was open circuit, and the other clock had a corroded wire where it joined at the circuit board. The wires are very fine, and I couldn't get it joined up, but others may. If it is the transistor, it is still a tricky job to get another one in there. I think you have to drill the rivetted brass stands the board fixes on (again, from memory, but I tried it once, without success!) and then you have to fix it back on somehow. The design is clever, but a bit frail. The single transistor holds electromagnet 1 on, attracting the pendulum. This movement generates back emf in e/m 2 which switches off the transistor, so the pendulum swings back, then the process repeats. Of course, you can fix a small quartz movement (a few $$) and run it off a battery or dropper resistor, keep better time, and still look original. I have found both types dated '71 with grey faces; I guess they gradually changed over. Dave. UK VW Type 3&4 Club www.hallvw.clara.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> To: type3@vwtype3.org <type3@vwtype3.org> Date: 24 October 1998 23:57 Subject: Re: [T3] clock On 24 Oct 98, at 15:39, Dave Hall wrote: > There are 2 types of Type 3 clock; the earlier one (to around '71) > goes click about once a minute as the spring is wound up again (they > all have a grey face), and the other is a transistorised mechanism > that uses a small pendulum to keep the time (normally black-face, > but I have seen some replacement ones with a grey face). The last year of grey faces (71) has the electronic works. That year also has the late retaining springs on the housing, but if you want to put it in an early car it is fairly easy to swap the works into the early housing. I have yet to get the late works to run reliably. I really haven't figured out the problem yet. My latest theory is that 1 or more of the transistors go bad and that putting in a rather generic substitute might give them a new life. I have not tested this theory yet. Jim - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org