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Thinking of replacing the worn engine on my '63 Notch. Not totally sold on the "pancake" concept, since there is zero room in the "trunk", so I'd be willing to open up the compartment. Is there any advantage to the upright shroud? How would a 914 engine work? Any suggestions on a good engine setup? I'm currently running dual "baby" Webers on a 1600 block with 009 dist. and single QP extraction. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org