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I do love Phillip's lowbacks, they are groovy. I can nonchalantly put my arm around my wife. The baby can see out the front from his child seat. Of course there is the rear ending safety issue. But if safety was the main issue I wouldn't be driving a 32 year old car. Peter Parker '66 Square; Phillip Portland, OR ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe