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> I have one of these setups on my '71. The only problem I've had was the original cheap relay got loose from sitting on the transaxle cover and the center coil rivet got loose. Since this grounded the coil, I > Thanks for the suggestions. >this wahat you mean by hard starting, failure to turn the engine over? > No, it turns over fine, just takes some cranking before it fires up. I thought maybe the carbs needed rebuilding but the local shop said they were cool and the chokes checked out good too. I never thought anything of it, just assumed all old 6-volt systems were like that until I fired up my Bus for the first time - it start immediately and the points, cap, rotor, etc. were like 10 years old and all dusty. I think the relay you are describing is something else, though. There is no original relay on my Square. Everett Barnes The Volkswagen Type II and III Experience everettb@prodigy.net http://ebus.simplenet.com/Volkswagen