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Toby B: > I bet the pads without grooves are a >different compound and don't have the same gassing >problem that the older pads did. >Toby B No, the ungrooved pads that came with the calipers are organic (asbestos?). They told me at the store that the non-organic pads would cost more. -Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/