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At 7:47 PM -0000 3/4/97, Keith Park wrote: >A Little addition to Tobys statement on the upper stabilizer, > >Tighten the clamp bolt well! Alot of arms and stabilizer bars (including >one of mine) have been ruined by loosness in the arm/bar joint. Once they >get too bad and rounded they cannot be tightened. I generally hate "me too" posts, but... I couldn't adjust the slop in my upper torsion bar; Bentley says that this is due to worn axial thrust rings. The front end would bounce terrible when turning to the right. I searched & searched for a junked front end, finally got one in the middle of last winter (and paid too much for it!). A *really* junked front end. Lots of PB Blaster, propane & broken tools later, I extracted the axial thrust rings. First time it was warm enough to replace 'em last spring, I borrowed a friend's car port to do the swap. Guess what? The axial thrust rings were just fine. I just about messed my pants... until I noticed that the left hand side tapered clamp bolt & the dimple in the torsion bar were beat to hell. *That's* where the slop was. The torsion bar from my bonus front end was useless (the opposite end corroded away), so I just used a new set screw & tightened the heck out of it. After one retightening, it's been fine. Later, when I asked a local VW mech. if had any bonus T3 upper torsion bars in his stash, he said "no, they get all buggered up where that set screw holds them on the left side." Toby--you're getting your axial thrust rings replaced? Did you locate new replacements, or are they used? -Greg '71 squareback '63 Beetle