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Okay, I'm sold, they sound cool (he he). So, how can I tell if I have them? What do I remove and look for? I'd hate to buy them just to find out they are already installed. I'm kinda hoping that they're not installed...then I can see if they really will help cool my baby. Can anyone recommend a good source? Yes, I know not to get chromed parts, even it they were exposed. My engine needs all the cooling help she can get so I go with the VW engineers and laws of physics: All shiny makes an engine whiny! Toby Erkson, air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L '75 Porsche 914 1.8L Portland, Oregon, http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8501/