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> So, how can I tell if I have them? What do I remove and look for? Jack up the car so that you can get yourself completely under it. Jack stands, remember. Bring a flashlight with you as you look at the pushrod tubes. Now look behind (above) them. What do you see? A) Cylinder fins. B) Tin that slightly conforms to the shape of the cylinders but have a square hole underneath each of the cylinders, and I can just see a peak of cylinder fin through the squares. C) Nothing, my pushrod tubes are in a box since my engine is being rebuilt because the engine overheated. If your answer is either A) or C) , you don't have cool tins. Got it? Big Al ================================= "The rarest-of-the-rare Volkswagens" Type 3 Cabriolet Prototype Project http://www.autographica.com/t3cpp.html mailto:awpresley@autographica.com =================================