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At 10:35 PM -0000 4/1/97, James Burroughs wrote: > >It not enough to say the figure are not true, what other source do you have to >refute the numbers. > >James Burroughs To James & everyone, fair enough; here you go: "...the Type 3 never really gained the following the Beetle had, though it did last in a restyled form (after 1966) until after some 2.3 million units." _VW_Beetle_ by Clive Prew, 1990, Smithmark Publishers Inc., New York, page 69. and... "The end came early in 1973, when the last of 1,813,600 Type 3-based cars rolled off the Wolfsburg assembly line to make way for VW's first water-cooled, front-engine cars." _Volkswagen_Chronicle_ by Graham Robson & the Auto Editors of Consumer Guide, 1996, Publications International, Ltd., Lincolnwood, Illinois, page 62. As these quotes are off by a good 20%+, I too would be interested in any additional sources. I do, however, find the quote of ~4.5million (based merely on supposed extrapolations of serial numbers!) to be difficult to swallow in this context. -Greg '71 squareback '63 Beetle