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Mel and Jim, The 'S' engine! The most powerful Type 1 based derivative from the VW factory! 66bhp versus 1600 dual port, dual carb 65bhp. Anyways, here are the details that I can remember which diferentiate this from the single carb engine of the same years. First off the engine is not numbered anything differently to the standard single carb 'N' models produced at the same time so you can not assume anything from the engine number unless you have proof of that number from VW records and such. My engine is numberred 0 682 209 so there you go. Displacement is still 69mm x 83mm for 1493cc's however the first year of production to all countries had domed 83mm pistons which gave a higher compression ratio, 8.5:1 rather than 7.7:1 (from memory). After August 1964 (65 model year) VW used flat crown 83mm pistons for export markets due to the unfavourably crappy fuel octane in other parts of the world. As far as my friends in Germany can tell they got domed 83mm pistons until the end of production ('S' model ran from August 1963 to August 1965- not a common model!). All 'S' engines were equiped with a pair of solex 32PDSIT's except those with the M option of single carb (obviously), but why would you order an 'S' without dual carbs? Strange that some people did! Also the distributor was different to single carb in that it was a ZVJCU4R3 which is a combined mech and vac advance distributor. During August 1964 VW changed that to a 311 905 205D (still 'S' only) which was vac only and better matched to the carbs which were also modified at the same time (different jets and venturi sizes- I have details if you want me to dig them up). The fual pump was the same, coil etc, exhaust was almost the same and had either a blank over the heat riser pipe or no heat riser pipe at all. Also the right hand side heater had a blank bolted to where the heat riser would be for a single carb engine as you no longer needed the heat riser tube. The oil relief valve within the engine was also different on the 'S' and had a groove around the top of it as opposed to the single carb which had a standard 40hp relief valve. Heads were identical, cam, crank etc. There are a few odds and sods that are next to impossible to get now like the dual carb fuel 'T' which as far as I know is 'S' only. The breather tower is slightly different from the 'S' to the 'N' but nothing to worry about (will look up details if you want). 'S' models also had the chrome tip on the exhaust as standard on the T34 (not easy to get NOS now!). No doubt I have probably forgotten a few things but now that my 'S' engine is back together after a six or so month rebuild I'm not interested in the details as much- it's finished and it runs choice! I have a lot of literature on the 'S' models from Germany and the factory workshop manuals so I probably have enough resources to give you the entire story on the 'S' but only if you ask (too much to write now). Also the 'S' was more than just some wheel trims and different engine, the entire interior changed slightly over production and parts for the interior are now non-existant. My personal view is that the 'S' was the best Type 3 version ever produced, particularly the Notch. Aaron.