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To further complicate things, isn't runner length only good for a certain rpm range? I believe the longer the runner, the more of a boost in low-end torque will be given to the engine (within limits, of course) whereas a short runner will benefit higher rpm's. Plenum size I'm not sure about but a large one is nice for that 'reserve' of air when the throttle gets mashed :) I've only read a little about this phenomena and I really need to read more as I'd like to build my own self-tuning system like some modern cars have...soon as I get my other 'wanna-doos' done ;) Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com >-----Original Message----- >...Whatever the case, it really doesn't matter. For a low-performance 1600 >that is restricted in other ways, 1/8" or even perhaps 1" difference is no >big deal. You're better off changing the exhaust and (somehow) enlarging >the throttle body before tuning the runners just right. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe