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It's Saturday and I finally have some time to work on the Fastback. I've taken the next step and verified whether or not the brain is getting good power and ground. I ran the test you described and when I pushed the trottle down I hear good strong clicks. Still it doesn't want to start. I've got some other things I want to get done to the car so will do that while waiting to hear what my next steps should be! I really appreciate the help, without it I guess I would be in a fix. Thanks, Art Sterrett Mobile, Alabama P.S. I believe it was Jim who asked if this car had set up for along time. I purchased the car at work. It was a trade in which was towed to the dealership I work at. The individual that traded it told me that he bought it from the original owner and drove it serveral years and than parked it in his back yard where it sat for about two years. He said he intended to restore it but decided he would rather stick with the bug's. Serveral things don't match up with what he told me though now that I really gotten into working on the car. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> > On 13 May 2006 at 22:54, a.sterrett@att.net wrote: > > > I appreciate the information you all gave me concerning getting this > > fastback to run! I ran the test in the engine compartment and the > > fuel pump did run when I grounded the 2 wires spliced together. I > > still am not getting any results from the pump relay under the dash. > > Okay, so you've proven that the pump, pump wiring, pump relay, and > the wiring forward to the pump relay are all okay. Take solace from > the fact that this just proved that a LOT of parts are good and > working. > > It's probably important to understand that this is just an electrical > test: You know that the pump motor turns, but you don't know if it > actually pumps gas. > > > Bob and Jim both indicated that this may mean a problem with the ECU > > or the wiring harness? Where should I proceed from here? > > First you need to verify that the brain is getting good power and > ground. On your '71 the easiest way to do this is to just turn the > key ON and then go to the engine and push the throttle down. You > should hear a series of clicks (from the injectors) every time you > push the throttle down. > > If you hear these clicks, then the brain is getting power and ground. > > If you don't hear the clicks there are a number of possible causes, > but let us know what you find to this point. > > > At times I am ready to throw in the towel, but I am bound determined > > not to let this baby get me down. For the moment I am going to assume > > my fuel pump relay is good and will keep reading while I wait to hear > > from you all as to what my next step should be. > > If you hear the clicks, you could also try shorting that wire to make > the pump run while you try to start the car. It MIGHT actually start. > To improve your chances, run the pump for 20 seconds before you try > the starter, just to fill all the lines with gas and get all the air > out. If the pump is actually pumping, you should be able to hear air > bubbling up in the gas tank as it gets forced out of the lines and > returned to the tank. > > You're doing fine and getting close. These are all encouraging signs. > > -- > ******************************* > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > ******************************* > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >