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My take on all the expenses for making cars "safer" is due to the lax requirements for any idiot to get a drivers license. I bear witness EVERY DAY as to the many stupid people on the road not paying attention or trying to look cool. Improvements are nice, I agree. It's inevitable. But I know I would rather see more old, *maintained* vehicles on the road (this includes motorcycles) than the now generic looking, overly mass produced, disposable vehicles we see today. Seriously, a well preserved vehicle stands out and draws attention. How many modern, easily accessible (i.e. excluding Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, etc.) vehicles can you say this about? I like my Jetta, don't get me wrong (to be honest, it grew on me), but do I seriously think it will be a classic like my Squareback? Heck no! Finding parts will be junkyard diving only...no one will make after-market parts for them. Like all the other cars out there they're meant to be recycled/crushed -- more so than they were of days gone by. Look at how companies push to spew out "new" models that drastically change the whole aspect of the vehicle i.e. parts from my '95 Jetta are incompatible with a '05 Jetta. Rant over. Toby Erkson -- air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback, '95 VW Jetta, '81 Gold Wing, '73 Porsche 914, '90 Wet Jet http://www.icbm.org/ Portland, Oregon >-----Original Message----- >When extolling the idea of keeping old cars on the road, I >recall being put in my place by a very wise old lady who was >still driving at about 90 years old who reminded me of all the >improvements that had come about over the years (eg lighting, >crush-zones, brakes, handling, passive and active safety >systems, energy absorbing everything). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~