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The main priority of most auto manufacturers that sell in the US right now is to get the car the heck out of the country before its 5th Birthday. They want to sell more cars, they don't want anybody driving a car in the USA that's over 5 years old... more profit can be made selling a new one and taking the old one and shipping it overseas for sale again. Hyundai is the most notable, when was the last time you saw a Hyundai in the US that is over THREE years old? They want NOTHING to do with holding onto a 10 year warrantee... they want that car gone before its 4 and out from under that warrantee... its part of how they sell so many so cheap. When your car turns 3 the dealers will HOUND you to buy a new one! Keith Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 golf "Winterat" 93 RX7 "Redstur" -----Original Message----- From: Toby Erkson [mailto:icbm@icbm.org] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:57 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Keeping 'em on the road (was RE: [T3] ethanol) My take on all the expenses for making cars "safer" is due to the lax requirements for any idiot to get a drivers license. I bear witness EVERY DAY as to the many stupid people on the road not paying attention or trying to look cool. Improvements are nice, I agree. It's inevitable. But I know I would rather see more old, *maintained* vehicles on the road (this includes motorcycles) than the now generic looking, overly mass produced, disposable vehicles we see today. Seriously, a well preserved vehicle stands out and draws attention. How many modern, easily accessible (i.e. excluding Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, etc.) vehicles can you say this about? I like my Jetta, don't get me wrong (to be honest, it grew on me), but do I seriously think it will be a classic like my Squareback? Heck no! Finding parts will be junkyard diving only...no one will make after-market parts for them. Like all the other cars out there they're meant to be recycled/crushed -- more so than they were of days gone by. Look at how companies push to spew out "new" models that drastically change the whole aspect of the vehicle i.e. parts from my '95 Jetta are incompatible with a '05 Jetta. Rant over. Toby Erkson -- air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback, '95 VW Jetta, '81 Gold Wing, '73 Porsche 914, '90 Wet Jet http://www.icbm.org/ Portland, Oregon >-----Original Message----- >When extolling the idea of keeping old cars on the road, I >recall being put in my place by a very wise old lady who was >still driving at about 90 years old who reminded me of all the >improvements that had come about over the years (eg lighting, >crush-zones, brakes, handling, passive and active safety >systems, energy absorbing everything). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~