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> You can use a 61-63 type with the preheat tube. Just remove the tube. If > you dont want to be "that" correct. I think I may have one of the early mufflers with the integral HEs and without the preheat pipe. I'll have to check to be sure. If I don't, then I'm sure I have one with the preheater pipe. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~