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[[[I've had some luck with glycerin]]] Thanx for the suggestion.....I'll stop at my local drug store and see if I can find this. Sounds good....I would love to find a product like this that acts like a "conditioner" that can help keep the rubber in good shape....I've used spray silicone, and it does keep the surface "slippery", but I wonder if it did anything for keeping the actual rubber soft and pliable since it seems to just sit on the surface...I dunno...that's why I asked. Dave Pallo His: '96 Impala SS...(Sunny Sundays) Hers: '72 Square...(still into resto) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~