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Ahh, yeah I have 2 12 volt ones and maybe a 6. You're right on the money Jim, they all suffered from some degree of water damage... mostly like you said, connectors rotting/rusting, dead caps and stuff like that. I like to fix em to keep everything looking stock. I had a defroster relay that had gotten soaked and the inside was all rusted out, so I put a new plastic relay inside and soldered it to the original connections to keep it looking stock. Worked great! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> > On 20 Jan 2006 at 15:43, type3list@comcast.net wrote: > > > Here's a question that may get the list moving... or at least get you guys > > throwing stuff at me. Those damn black boxes that flash the hazards and > > directionals. Anybody got an internal wiring diagram for it? I've got 3 > > that don't work and I figured I'd try and have been toying with the idea of > > stuffing new internals in there to make it work but keep the original look. > > I've seen those flasher kits from say, midamericamotorworks, that have two > > relays (or something) mounted to a plastic base... anybody know how those > > are wired? > > I don't have a schematic, but I've fixed a few of them by doing rather obvious > things. If they get water dripped on them, then some of the internal riveted > connections inside can go bad; they can be cleaned and soldered quickly. > > There are also some timing capacitors in them which can go bad with age. Those > can be replaced. > > I've certainly spent a lot of time on some of them, but in the end the problems > were usually simple. You also didn't say WHICH of these boxes you're talking > about, because there are at least 4 different versions (late 6V, early 12V, > middle 12V, late 12V.) The early 6V flasher relays were silver cannisters, and > were completely different. > > -- > Jim Adney > jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711-3054 > USA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >