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My car has a build-date of 10/70 and VIN of 3112048034. The windshield rubber is kinda old and dry-looking. It has dented stainless steel trim in the groove. I don't see any sign of steel plates inside but that doesn't mean they were not present at some time and removed when a previous windshield was replaced. After all, the car is nearly 36 years old! BTW, what is meant by "Cal Look" with reference to window trim? 71 FB Stephen J. Jackson Commissioning Engineer, Petron Industries, Inc. SJackson@petronworld.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:32 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: RE: [T3] window installing On 6 Feb 2006 at 23:45, Steve Jackson wrote: > Lovely...my windshield is totally smashed...it is on the long list of > things to fix....(71 FB...) > Jim--you wouldn't happen to know the hull numbers that change started on > or some other obvious marker before I shell out a hundred and a half for > new glass that does not fit would you? (er...serial numbers...) I believe that the body opening NEVER changed. It is the same for all type 3s of all years, except for type 34 Ghias, where it is completely different. So the VIN is irrelevant. If you're buying a replacement windshield, just assume that it is the early larger size, use the early, more available seal, and don't try to install the metal clips that were used in some of the late ('71-3) cars. The first VIN that MIGHT have come with the metal clips and smaller windshield was 36x 2 000 001, and that would include ALL '71-3 type 3s originally sold in the US. On your US '71, you will just have to remove the 4 metal strips that you'll find clipped to the inside of the windshield opening after you remove the remnants of the old glass and the rubber seal. If your rubber seal is still in good shape I believe you can reuse it with the early glass and without the metal strips. -- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~