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If your battery is older then deep cycling it dead may require you to trickle charge it to get it to take a charge again. You need a few amps to run the ignition, FI and fuel pump, if you can get it rolling fast enough the generator will do that. With a battery that isn't dead but not charged enough to close the starter solenoid you can pop it, Well tuned FI will start on one compression stroke, which is nice if you're the only one there to roll it, you don't need to get it rolling hardly at all and Vroom! Its running! Keith Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El Baja Rojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 golf "Winterat" 93 RX7 "Redstur" -----Original Message----- From: J. Jonik [mailto:j_jonik@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:56 PM To: type3-d@vwtype3.org Subject: [T3] Pop Starting Fuel Injection... In all the years I've had, and worked on, Type 3s, I don't know the rap on Pop Starting when battery drained (too much?) by leaving the radio on for 3 days. 1) Didn't think a radio, w/ no lights etc, could drain a battery so car wouldn't start. Not even a glimmer of energy on key turn. Not even horn or light worked. 2) Tried to roll and pop start...nothing. 3) A friend gave a battery jump and off it went, running like a top. All ok. Did about three or four miles and, after parking (on a slope)...had to pop start, which worked that time. Is it that at a certain point, there's not enough juice to work the elec fuel pump? Pop Starts impossible then? After letting it run awhile at home, it starts now on its own. Battery registering in the middle range at last check. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~