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Re: [T3] Master cylinder


On 28 Nov 2005 at 14:05, Steven Ayres wrote:

> DavidF=> ... has a dual-circuit MC in it now. Is this a much
> => cheaper part?
> 
> It is, but there's a strong chance of getting the wrong thing over the 
> counter. Most counter men have no idea about subtle distinctions between 
> Type 1 and Type 3 parts. Finding a direct replacement for yours will 
> involve accurately identifying what you have first.

Absolutely, especially since this MC is not original.

> Asking the list: how many dual-circuit Type 3 MCs ar there, and what are 
> their identifying features?

Very early (first part of '67) had inlet nipples for 6mm hose. I've only seen 
ONE of these, ever, and that was one I rebuilt for someone on our list last 
year. Before that, I didn't even know that they existed. There may have been 
ATe and FAG versions of these; I don't know. If there were different versions, 
then they would interchange.  

There were several different versions of the later MCs with the 8mm inlet 
nipples, but they will all fit and work properly with all type 3s with 8mm 
supply lines. However, their internal parts do not always interchange. For 
example the FAG MCs use a different shaped rear seal which is NLA, but I can 
modify the FAG piston to accept an ATe seal. There are also aftermarket MCs out 
there, possibly made in Brazil, Japan, or the US. The Japanese ones (Bryco) 
seem to be copies of ATe MCs, so their internal parts interchange. I'm not sure 
about the others.  

> One more thing: you haven't mentioned why you're looking to replace the 
> MC. It's not at all uncommon that Type 3 brake problems are 
> misdiagnosed, by both amateurs and pros. Often very simple problems are 
> wrongly blamed on a bad MC. Before recommending that you spend your 
> hard-earned cash, I'd prefer to know that your diagnosis is solid. How 
> did you come to it?

Very good point. Let's hear your symptoms....

-- 
Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711-3054
USA

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