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In a message dated 5/5/05 2:57:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tristessa@frys.com writes: << >"WE SHOULD HAVE THEM BY JUNE 12TH AT THE VW CLASSIC IN IRVINE CALIFORNIA." <shrug> I'm going off of what he's been posting on the samba, not by his website. Seeing his posts, it sounds like he *plans* to have them for the Classic. I dunno about anyone else, but >> Yeah, but he's currently only got 26 sets on "pre-order". This is his comment from May 3rd 2005; " its roughly going to take 50 sets to get half of the tooling cost to get them started. At 30 or so i can start having the engineer disect the oem spindles and build one from one chunk of aluminum to get a prototype. once this is done, we can test fit it with disc's or drums along with getting the correct bearings ordered for the later t-3 guys. It all takes money to make it happen in this world and if i can get 50 or so to reserve their sets, it makes it easier to pay for the other half on tooling. " This sounds like it might be a while before you'll actually see the finished parts. He's still got to actually make the parts, and test them to verify that they will withstand the abuse of normal everyday driving (can you say law suit if it fails). This might take some time too, and I know I don't want to be a guinea pig for something like this. :O Just my take on it. However, I'd love to drop my car the "correct" way, but until there's a product out there that's been throughly tested I'm not going to use it. Note that these will be cast iron spindles, not forged like the OE spindles. There's a big difference in the 2. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~