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In a message dated 7/21/05 10:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fess-vwtype3.org@fess.org writes: << The ball joint was free enough to rise up out of the steering knuckle, I just couldn't get it far enough to clear it. Is the bottom of the ball joint of a slightly large diameter? I didn't need to pry in the slot with a screwdriver, but perhaps I do? >> Sounds like it's still pinched enough not to let it come out. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, becoming a T-3 Heb, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 69 Square, currently awaiting a t-4 engine transplant ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~