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In a message dated 1/7/05 12:08:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, cars@tiserves.com writes: << I turn the key to the *start* position and I hear a click, the generator light comes on, the oil light comes on, etc... The starter does not turn the engine at all. >> You might try jumping the 2 starter wire connections at the starter. If the engine turns over, then you might have a dead spot in the solenoid. But if it doesn't turn over, then you know the starter needs replacing. I've got a couple of t-3's here that have temperamental starters, and I've added an extra wire (runs parallel to the one from the switch) just so I don't have to crawl under the car to jump the starter. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~