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On 22 Dec 2005 at 14:32, Fiesta Cranberry wrote: > happened today. The Baroness is acting up again. Same thing as before > I changed the battery and volt. reg.: not starting. This time, I could > hear the relay clicking, but no pump whir. I got out my handy-dandy new > volt meter, and proceeded to check the relay under the steering wheel. Atta girl! > I got no voltage at plug 87, and fluctuating, low voltage at plug 86. I > wasn't sure if I was making contact with plug 87 (there's a hard plastic > "boot" over the connectors on that one), so I disconnected the wires, > and tested it. No voltage. Then I tried turning the key all the way, > and the car started! Ran just fine. I shut it off, reconnected the > wires, and tried to start it again, and it ran. Then I tried again, and > nada. Don't try to make sense of the voltages on the 2 wires in the plastic plug body; just ignore them. If the relay clicks they are working. Terminal 87 should have voltage ONLY when the engine is turning over, one way or another, or if the key was just turned on in the last second. I don't think there should be any kind of "boot" over the wire on # 87. > How in the world did it start when the wires were unconnected? If you had disconnected ALL the wires (5 wires) from that relay, then it should not have started unless someone else has monkeyed with the relay and bypassed it, which would be dangerous. > Anyway, I ordered a new relay. The relay is a possible culprit. Let us know if this seems to fix your problem. > Lori & The Baroness, '71 FI SB automatic AT cars (70 and later) have 5 wires on this relay, MT cars only got 4. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~