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I wouldn't want to drill any holes in the roof. Why not clamp them to the gutter and then you can remove them when not needed? That was the way they were always done over here. There was a nice one for sale on UK E-bay recently - not a full length though, but a genuine accessory with the VW badge stamped into the support pressings - the box had pictures of Bugs, Type 3, Type 4 and K70, and the official VW insignias etc. It went for £50 ($90?), almost worth it for the box! Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~