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In a message dated 4/28/05 5:22:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cars@tiserves.com writes: << Jim Adney wrote: >There were also replacement early calipers with 2 bleeders, so that >is an additional possible confuser. > >BTW, the dividing point was more like 71-1/2, or actually 71-11/12. > Yep. I have a mid-July '71 with the early calipers (one bleeder). >> Yup, my neighbors t-3 Square panel custom is a "late" 71, with ALL the 72 stuff normally found. What I mean by that is, large calipers, diagnostic box, black faced gauges, wiring harness inside the car (instead of passing inside the left rear fender), but the pan says 361xxx on it. It's also an automatic car. Back when he bought it (about 15 years ago) it still had a t-4 engine out of a bus in it (complete with their carbs), that had the floor hacked up. About 7 years ago, I swapped out the bus motor for him, as he picked up a donor Square for the engine (I got the very much needed pan sections for my wife's car in trade, plus some other trinkets). He ran out of money at the time to see how the engine was, but a few weeks ago he picked up some carbs and stuff to finish what we started. We might send the calipers to Jim A for rebuilding, since I don't know anybody else who does them, but I need to find out how rusty they are before shipping them so I don't waste Jim's time. As a last result, he's looking at picking up some new early style calipers, and converting the spindles over to use them. I told him he'll lose some braking ability, but he doesn't seem to worried, as the rest of the car is custom, and he's not going to put a bunch of miles on it since he's got a few other vehicles to drive. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~