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In a message dated 4/18/05 3:28:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, russw@classicvw.org writes: << On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 14:04, Stephen Jackson wrote: > OK guys, I am a VW newbie! What constitutes a "darkside" or "lightside" > Volks? > Steve Jackson > stevejax61@hotmail.com > It is a Star Wars Reference. Lightside is stock, or close to it (Luke Skywalker). Darkside equals non-stock or Darth Vader. >> Or a better example can be found in my signature. : ) Not my Notch (although it's a little grey ; ) ), but my 71 Roadster 2. This car is has both the lightside and the darkside mixed, as it's semi mostly stock, but the roof is chopped off and it's lowered front and rear. There are a couple more examples here too, like Brian's Speedster (mid engined), Toby's Orange Square (big engine and full sliding sunroof), John J's Square (it's a little dark with it's electric sunroof, Mustang seats, and flared rear fenders : ) ), Keith Park's cars are another example too, in that both of his cars (that I saw) had cruise control, full gauge packaging, and other little hidden tricks. : ) Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~