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On 14 Oct 2004 at 6:43, Rus wrote: > i believe thatis my problems.......was working on it > last night. the torsion bar is sliding back and forth > on the stabalizer bar......... > So how do i get this crazy nut out for one thing or is > the torsion arm bar too bad to use and should i get > another one? Rus, Two comments: First, I try to encourage people to delete excess quoted text from their messages to the list, since the excess just clutters the list archives and consumes extra Internet bandwidth as it is sent out to 400 list members worldwide. Second: your question. The stabilizer bar is just a special rod that is anchored to each upper trailing arm. If you remove the anchors from each side you can slide the bar all the way out without removing any other part of the suspension. Do this by jacking up the car in a place where you have about 1.5m clearance to the left of the LF wheel. Remove both F wheels. Remove the two anchor bolts from the R side of the stabilizer bar and the single bolt from the L side. Tap on the R end of the bar and drive it out the L side. Once it has started out you can just pull it all the way out. The reason that you want to drive this out from R to L is that there is a small steel cover over the left side hole which you want to come out, not in. You may lose that cover when you drive the bar out, or it may already be lost. Don't worry about it; it's not really important. Now you can examine it. There should be double flat sides on both ends of the bar. If these flats are rounded the bar will not work any more and must be replaced. There will be a small round dimple in one of the flats on the L end. If this is no longer round, you can make it round by drilling it a bit deeper. If you do this, make sure you make a dimple that the setscrew anchor will fit into nicely. The dimple MUST be in the right place. If you're not sure where the right place is, I can measure one here and tell you. If the dimple is too damaged to repair, you can make an entirely new one on the other side. Again, you have to make sure that you do this in the right place. You also need to check the hole in the L upper swing arm. Just reverse the bar and stick it's L end in the L arm to see if the fit of the bar is snug in the arm. If it is loose, then the hole in the arm may be too worn to ever hold well. The big question is whether the flat on the bar and the flat in the hole are both flat enough that the bar cannot "rock" in the hole. If you're unsure, you can always try it; what you've done so far is pretty easy compared to trying to replace the upper arm. Good luck and let us know what you find. -- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~