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I believe I have found the loud noise. I took the gen off again and started the car and with a flashlight I peered in the hole and reved up the engine until I saw the nut behind the fan. Now do I have to pull the engine to get to this or can I do it in the car. I couldn't get the pully shroud off before. Do I have to take the muffler off? Thanks the screwdriver trick worked outstanding. Amy and Ollie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~