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The 'open a window before shutting the door' is obviously going to be almost essential in a Notch, less important in a Fastback, and somewhat optional in a Squareback, but my original seals '71 Square still benefits from the window being open a fraction to avoid the need to slam it. It's a function of the amount of air inside and the resultant pressure increase as the door shuts. My Beetle has such a small volume of air, it's not only uncomfortable to shut the door without the window slightly open, but often impossible. However a click and firm push from outside will do as well, so it's just the seal doing its job well. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycap.rr.com> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [T3] John's Rubbers-Now door seals- > My 71 is sealed tighter than my wallet and has the vents and the doors shut > notably harder with all the windows up. It also took a couple years for the > seals to set in. > > My Notch almost requires you to open a window to shut a door! those seals > never set in like I thought they should have. But Im just happy to have OE > style seals that seal. > > Keith > > > Actually the later cars with the flow through ventilation should have > > an advantage here. the pressure build up would not be as great and the > > doors should close easier. > > > > All modern cars have this kind of ventilation built into them. Both to > > help with door closing efforts and to help the performance of climate > > control systems. > > > > Later, > > John Jaranson > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >