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Well, I must correct all the statements Ive make about the upper ball joints being very large, lightly loaded, and Never wearing out! At 288Kmi I have some play in my right upper joint... So I guess they do wear out eventually. I just hope it will hold out another 10K or so when I start rebuilding this Square again... Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback 65 Squareback 75 Opel 87 Golf 88 Rx7 10th Anniversary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org