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> OK... here is the solution to the rear window defroster issue. > > It takes some finesse and ingenuity but.... > Is this speaking from experience, Keith? I don't know if it's the same sort of kit as I put on my Beetle years ago - that had a paper with the lines on it, that you applied to the cleaned rear window, and trapped the wire ends in a plastic self-adhesive channel with an aluminium gripping rod. As the wires heated up, they melted the special adhesive and stayed stuck there when cool, so you could remove the backing paper. It worked fine for maybe a year, but gradually the wires came away from the glass. I hadn't thought of applying it to a window while removed; maybe modern adhesives could do a better job than all those years ago. I can't see why there would be too much current, unless our rear windows are so much narrower than the average car it's made to fit. I was toying with using some of that pin-striping masking tape, sand-blasting the glass between and spraying some graphite, then overcoating it. I even worked out how thick the film would need to be for the right current consumption, but I never got around to doing it so I've no idea if it would work. I guess you would need each wire to have maybe 30 to 40 ohms resistance to give about 4 to 5 ohms for 8 in parallel. Do I recall that some modern screens (even available on Beetle front windshields) have a coating that's heated rather than separate wires? Could be it's between the laminate layers I suppose. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org