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In a message dated 3/7/04 4:07:58 PM Central Standard Time, gregi@vwtype3.org writes: << http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2464916341&category=9873 >> well it does have this statement; Datum der Erstzulassung: 07. 03. 1969 which would make it a 69 Notch. I think it looks pretty cool. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 71 Square, Now a 2 seat Roadster, pics can be seen at; http://volksrods.com or http://photo.starblvd.net/bobnotch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org