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> I recall that there are actually VW part numbers stamped on them somewhere. I think some of mine have 311 numbers and some have 113 (or 111) numbers. I wonder if the ones with the rubber inserts are the 311s. I assume that the differences between the 2 types would have been a slightly different shape to accommodate the different wheel offsets. > At least on the pe-66 rims, the Type 3 rim has a different profile so Type 1 trim rings don't sit flat on the wheel. > A look at the microfilm shows 2 versions: one up thru 65 (5-bolt) and a second for 66-69 (4-bolt.) The drawing of the early one shows narrower slots, and this one is displayed over a wheel that has NO slots. Sound familiar to anyone? > '64 to '65 used a no-slot "smoothie" rim. Well, not real early '64s, although VW might have just been using up their stock. -- Everett Barnes Phoenix, AZ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org