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On 26 Feb 2004 at 15:29, Schlegel, Richard wrote: > Here are a few reasons keeping in mind I am new to this FI VW stuff: > Fire hazard, More HP?, Looks better, FI hose is expensive!, After buying > the hose ($30.00 w/clamps) we find out I Need to replace the injectors @ > 45 bucks a pop to replace a 2" piece of hose! For another $200.00 we > bought a new dual carb kit. Shall I go on? :-) Anyone else have reasons > why we should or should not do the swap? Just curious, Fire hazard is real, but only if you don't replace the hoses. Since you've already looked into this it sounds like this one is covered. Carbed cars can have engine fires, too, but I agree that the hoses are much less stressed at 4 psi. More HP? Is this something your daughter has asked for? Besides, without an increase in displacement the HP to be gained is marginal, at best. Upping the displacement can certainly be done, but they we're no longer talking hundreds of $, more like thousands. Modern cars run FI systems at 60+ psi, so they need fancy hose. Our systems run at 30 psi, so standard hose is fine. Standard 5/16" fuel hose is rated for 50 psi, is readily available, and is the perfect size for our systems. Engine access is MUCH easier and cleaner with FI than with carbs. Many people remove the carbs in order to service the front spark plugs. This is not necessary with the FI. The 2" length of hose can just be replaced with a 2" piece of hose. You DO have to figure out how to cut off the crimp ferrule, however. This would be no problem to someone willing to face up to a swap to carbs. ($45 injectors are likely to be junk, BTW.) All the repairs you might have to do to a FI system should cost you less than $100, but you might have to ask here first to find out the most cost effective way to do it. Once you swap on a pair of carbs, you will then have all the fun of trying to get the jetting right so that the car runs well. Have you checked to make sure that the place you bought the carbs from offers a full line of jets and how much a reasonable double set of jets for testing would cost? Most people who go this route either spend 6 months or so getting the jetting right, or just set them really rich and ignore the problem. The latter approach usually results in rapid engine (piston ring and cylinder) wear. I don't think a converted car can pass Cal vehicle inspections. That's every 2 years; is that right? Need I go on.... ;-) -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org