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Re: [T3] question on rear disc brakes continued...


> Tell us more about this "rolling road" test equipment that measures
> braking.  What, exactly, is it measuring during braking?
>

Hi Toby,
Take a look at http://www.motuk.co.uk/ to see a garage layout with the rollers
visible in the floor, and  http://www.boschautoparts.co.uk/teBrak1.asp?c=2&d=3
to see the readout of the roller brake tester.  Each wheel on the axle sits
cradled by its own pair of rollers, which can be powered independently.  The
braking force exerted on the rollers by the tyre being braked against the roller
motor is registered on its own dial.  You can check for binding brakes by
starting the rollers and seeing if there's a significant reading on the dial,
then gently increase the pedal pressure to show if a piston is sticking, and
watch how the needles increase simultaneously to check for brakes pulling one
way or the other.  As you release the brake pedal, you can see if one is tending
to stick (ie if there's pressure remaining in the system).

The dials read in kilograms force, and adding the total you can calculate the
maximum deceleration from F=Ma.  Using force in kgf and mass in kg, you would
actually get the result in 'g's.  I believe with normal equipment, 0.7 - 0.8 g
is considered pretty good (no sticky tyres on mine).

I don't worry too much about the actual reading, as long as they are well up the
dial and move evenly and together, but I have noticed the Type 3 Variant locks
the fronts up around 120/130, and the rears maybe get up to about 200-250 before
the tester stops pushing the pedal, since they are performing well enough.  I
don't think I've ever actually seen the rears lock-up, but I'm busy watching the
dials for problems or reassurance.  It's lovely when they move up smoothly
together.

Conversely, the Golf Variant went over 300 on the fronts, and maybe 150 on the
rear.  In this case, the rears always lock on the machine.
Our Polo, VWs water-cooled entry-level car back in the 80s, does something
similar, but the figures are more like 200/100 front/rear, as it's quite a light
car.

Since the test is done in the workshop, there is no way to measure changes due
to 'weight transfer'.  The effect of that is enormously different depending on
the vehicle speed and the braking force exerted (I know a bit of basic Physics,
too!).
The Golf has an automatic brake balancer that I think works on the deflection of
the rear suspension, while the Camper has a ball-bearing pressure-limiting
system for the rear to reduce lock-up when the 'van' is lightly loaded.  You
don't usually need this system on the Type 3 Variant, though the front wheels
sometimes lock up rather easily on a slippery road!

While the annual MoT test (like the TUV in Germany) is often dreaded, it can
show up potentially dangerous problems, and personally I'd rather know about
these than pretend they don't exist, even if it does cost about $50.  I can't
get as good a look at the underneath at home as the tester can get with a ramp
and lead lamp.
One year he failed it on a small crack in the camper front axle 'cheek', but it
was actually horrifically rusted in the ends of the beam, which i found as I
cleaned off small spots of surface rust.  The corrosion that caused the crack
hadn't actually spread sideways at all.

Dave.
UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club
http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/
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