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On 10 Apr 2004 at 10:56, Robert Hornstein wrote: > Well My fault I forgot to mention that I hear one click of the now famous > two click fuel relay test. Okay, then we know that you're halfway there. > The relay undwe the back seat is fine and the ground was and is tight. Since > the pump is good it's time to go after the second relay. I printed Jim's > email as many of us do. The second relay is the one that gives me the most > trouble I carry an extra-long #2 Phillips when I'm running a late Injected > T-3. Funny After I work anywhere for a time speed bumps seem to get put in. > A 1973 won't start if the second relay comes loose from the Bulkhead (behind > fusebox). I had to leave my car at work one night. Found the answer in a > 912E Manual I don't know what arrangement the 912E has, but all my FI type 3s, including 3 73s, have exactly the same relay up there: No local ground required (or desired for any reason.) They work fine even if just dangling from the wires. The wiring details are shown in the FI chapter of the Bentley manual. The relay logic is the same for all FI years. Does this relay look exactly like the main power relay under the back seat? It should. Does this relay have a 2-pin white plastic connector plugged onto 2 of the relay contacts? It should. Right now I'm going on the theory that you have some non-OE wiring in there, which you've taken to be original, and there's some problem with this modification which someone did. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org