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I pulled the lift channel off a piece of window glass, and BANG! glass bits all over the floor. Tempered glass can go off in a big way with the wrong stimulation - I guess something stressed it locally. It doesn't normally happen. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org