Re: [T3] My brakes have no bleeders! :P

[Steven Patch <nionwolf@san.rr.com>]

<x-flowed>Oh, man.  I guess I'll just take another long look... this sounds 
disappointing.  In the meantime, I guess I'll adjust the rears.

By the way, does anyone have any tips for getting a jack underneath an 
extremely lowered car without driving onto 2x4s? :P

Steve
On Thursday, September 4, 2003, at 01:58 PM, Jim Adney wrote:

> On 4 Sep 2003 at 11:03, Steven Patch wrote:
>
> > I went to bleed the brakes on my '67 square the other day and came 
> > across
> > something very strange.  There are no bleeders!  Someone in the past
> > apparently replaced the rear bleeders with allen screws (as far as I 
> > can
> > tell... I wasn't able to get the screws clean enough at the time to 
> > confirm
> > that that's what they were.. but there's a button head in the same 
> > spot that
> > my Bentley book shows a bleeder to be on the rear cylinders).
>
> They have been broken off. I can get them out, but it's probably not 
> worth the
> effort. It's neither straightforward, nor easy, and it can't be done 
> on the
> car.
>
> > on the front disks I can't find any bleeders ANYWHERE - even any 
> > screws or
> > anything! There's just the hose going in and that's it!  Where should 
> > I
> > look?
>
> Look between the 2 upper bolts on the inside face of the caliper. If 
> you don't
> see the broken off stump there, check between the bottom 2 bolts, just 
> in case
> the calipers are on the wrong side of the car, and upside down. I can 
> replace
> these, too, but again it is a lot of work and only worthwhile if you 
> have OE
> calipers in otherwise good condition.
>
> > The brakes work well - on the first pump the pedal goes nearly to the 
> > floor,
> > but if you lift it and push again it's pretty firm.  I can tell a 
> > simple
> > bleeding would make them work great.
>
> Sounds to me like the rears just need to be adjusted. They are not self
> adjusting, so, as the shoes wear, more pedal travel is required. 
> eventually
> this means more than one stroke will be needed.
>
> Broken bleed valves mean any hydraulic brake work you do becomes a 
> major job. I
> would not touch anything here until you are ready to shut the car down 
> while
> you get all 4 bleed valves fixed.
>
> --
> Jim Adney
> jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, WI 53711-3054
> USA
>
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