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Aaron wrote: >Tight as in turning the start until the wheels won't >move? No, I didn't do that. Yes, this is what I meant. The theory behind it is the wheel cylinder doesn't have to expand so it won't trap as much air. This lets it bleed like it should, then when the job is done you just back them off 3 clicks (after doing the fronts). >OK, theory #1 proven correct. I *am* an idiot. I had >the front of the car jacked up while I was doing this >'cause I replaced the master cylinder & left the car >in the air to bleed the system. Happens to the best of us too. You'd be surprised at some of the things I've done by mistake. Sometimes they worked out for the good though. : ) >Thanks for the help. I'll try jacking the rear of the >car up tomorrow night & try it again. No problem, thats what we're here for, to help. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Squareback-AT - the baby suburban 71 Squareback- formerly undecided, now becoming a 2 seat Roadster, in progress : ) getting closer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org