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>Also...This car had no side markers ?? > That seems very strange to me. I would see if they have been filled or maybe the fenders were changed? Is it original paint? >Now are the needles really supposed to be red , Or is the orange just old red paint ? > Ok, orange. >As we were looking over the car there are quite a bit of differences between it and my 63, some small some not..interesting none the less > Yep, '64 introduced quite a few changes. - Everett ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org