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Why do we feel the need to give POs such a hard time? Aren't we all POs to someone else? I dread the time I have to sell my car on and have some NO dissing me about the poor standard of my work/maintainance. POs are just old NOs with slightly different ideas than US about their old cars. Way I see it is you get a car that needs TLC-its not NOS but has history which you have to deal with with a smile on your face or go out and buy a new car. We don't have to buy POs old crap car and try to make it our new beauty but we do which is OUR problem, not POs! Mark Seaton '73 Fasty (clapped out, old rusty thing that I love V much), London ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org