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Well today I fitted my NOS calipers and my Golf pads. Had a bit of trouble with the brake pipe to flexi hose union on one side though- it was seized last summer when I replaced the flexi hoses, but this time it was super seized. I wiggled it back and forward but to no avail. I heated the nut but still no luck (BTW did you know that brake fluid is slightly flammable!) In the end I took some freezing spray and repeatedly heated and then froze the union nut and eventually after a long time it started to free. I think I may want to replace this pipe in the not too distant future! I rubbed graphite powder onto the tube and worked the nut over it till it was really free so hopefully next time it won't seize. Anyway, the NOS calipers seemed exactly the same as the ones I took of yet they had a different VW number cast into them (they are ATE). Did these numbers change over the years?- or maybe these calipers were destined for a Type4? I didn't note the numbers but the old ones were VW 112 &123 . I fitted them and the pads but there seems to be a gap of 3 or 4 mm between the pad and the disk. Is this normal? I thought it would be a tight fit to get them in. Now that I've bled them the pedal feels totally different- there is a much longer travel and more progressive braking- I suppose that could be the pads bedding in, but why the long travel? Perhaps the old calipers were taking up the gap so they acted faster but the new ones are freer moving so each time I brake I have to move the piston out the 3-4mm gap? I checked the width between the pistons and they are the same. Perhaps the old ones had the wear compensation device and the new ones not? They seem to work though Mark Seaton, '73 Fasty London ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org