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I have had success re-torqueing heads soon after a rebuild. Pay close attention to the feel of the stud. If it at all feels like it is stripping out of the case, Phil is right. If it feels like it's tightening up properly, then you stand a chance. It's gotta feel right, and that's not something anyone can describe, you have to experience it. Another reason to lube the nuts, so that the drag of a dry nut on a dry stud, doesn't interfere with the feel of the stud in the case itself. Jeff '67 Sqbk -----Original Message----- From: phil cain [mailto:bearsvw2000@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:17 AM To: tristessa@pon.net; type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Heads? Studs? Hal, Things are looking grim for you, I don't think retorquing the heads will do any good in your case. the overhaul company must not have put case savers into the case when it was rebuilt. I rebuild engines and I have never had a stud pull out after casesavers have been installed. Also I have seen many people try to save engines by retorquing the heads, with no luck I might say. The only option that you have is to pull the engine apart and install case savers, if you install the big case saver studs they will ruin the case for installing the case saver inserts. Phil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org