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Jim, Steven, Ben, Bob, et al I fixed the wire from the horn connected to a plate with bolts (i believe connecting the steering column to the knuckle, not sure) and now the lights turn on and the car turns over, so whatever the wire was, it was needed. Although, the horn still doesn't work. Also, it seems that real TDC for my car is actullaly when the rotor is pointing away from #1 since once I got it to turn and timed it to that position, it started...although very rough and not at all today (I'm beginning to suspect that since the previous owner didn't give it proper tune-ups, and who knows what his mechanic did to it, that one minor problem quickly became a bunch of minor problems). I'm now suspect of the coil since the test Muir gives resulted in a dark orange spark, then when I just tested it I got nothing from both of the coils I've got, but I am getting full voltage from the ignition to the coil. I then tested the voltage coming from the coil to the distributor (the thick one, not the small green one) with a voltmeter and got 6V--I would think that I should get some sort of spark at 6V, but it seems this isn't the case, am I right? If so, anyone know where I can get a good blaster coil that would fit my engine? Would an MSD Blaster 2 Ignition Coil work? And would I need a new dist, dist cap, or something else to make sure I don't burn up something with too much voltage? Anyhow, I'm sure that the fan belt needs to be tightened as well, but I'm sort of stuck with that until I can find something I can use to remove the generator pulley nut--I may just have to end up making the tool Muir suggests, or if I can find an offset open end wrench big enough I think it would work too. It seems then that my dist was installed incorrectly, since the rotor doesn't move by hand, and the number begins with 311. I'm aware it should be .006", although I though it was .15mm instead of .08mm. I tried that first, but then .04mm to see if that would even fit and to get myself acquanted with where it was supposed to slide through. Besides all that though, it turns out I have long studs and based on what Muir said I believe the gauge I need is different for that reason and I have no idea what it is. Next time I check out the valves (I wait till the sun has been down for awhile so I don't burn myself on the hot concrete--its been getting up to 100/42C in Vegas, the normal temp that is, so the concrete is even better) I will also check #3. From what I remember (I didn't look that carefully) the valve springs were either the same or very slightly different, and I did notice a drastic difference when the engine had been turned to somewhere besides TDC. I pushed on both sides of the rocker arm, both with the same result. I will also have someone rotate the engine while I watch the valves, even though I believe I've figured out the timing problem it is good to be doubly certain, and besides it will give me a better feel for the valves. Although I'm relieved to find out why so much oil was coming out and that it isn't a problem=) I've been careful to make certain that the SP wires match up with the rotor and the like. What is starting fluid and how do I give a shot of it to the air cleaner connection? Thanks to everyone again! Sincerely, Christopher J. Valade ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org