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Both ID's (members) signed on to bid on this car, new accounts and first bids placed same day. You can surf forever before registering. As for timing of the bids, that follows when the original bid was placed, not beat. see detail below, starting from bottom: and so on... this continues like this until the end. kw3427(0) $4,200.00 Feb-12-03 18:07:14 PST ebbelde(0) $4,150.00 Feb-12-03 16:06:32 PST Same thing here. ebbe put in a bid $1000 over asking price. ebay will release this amount just enough to top a bid, up to his max. kw bid 9 times get find it. kw3427(0) $4,100.00 Feb-12-03 18:06:33 PST kw3427(0) $4,000.00 Feb-12-03 18:05:29 PST kw3427(0) $3,900.00 Feb-12-03 18:03:51 PST kw3427(0) $3,750.00 Feb-12-03 18:03:05 PST kw3427(0) $3,650.00 Feb-12-03 18:02:13 PST kw3427(0) $3,550.00 Feb-12-03 18:01:12 PST kw3427(0) $3,450.00 Feb-12-03 18:00:03 PST kw3427(0) $3,350.00 Feb-12-03 17:58:49 PST kw3427(0) $3,250.00 Feb-10-03 17:52:24 PST kw3427(0) $3,200.00 Feb-09-03 19:44:59 PST it just took kw 2 days to beg the wife to spend that much on a VW and he bid up to that point. ebbelde(0) $3,150.00 Feb-07-03 07:06:04 PST * ebbe placed a bid of $3150 two days back, kw3427(0) $3,057.57 Feb-09-03 19:43:16 PST kw3427(0) $2,957.57 Feb-09-03 19:41:06 PST kw3427(0) $2,857.57 Feb-09-03 19:38:35 PST kw had to bid 3 times before he topped the highest amount ebbe* was willing to pay. standlt(12) $2,757.57 Feb-08-03 09:26:37 PST I will add that the statement, the winner is who bids last, not most wins is FALSE. If you bid like ebbe did here, the full amount you are willing to pay, then ebay will cover you. Obviously. I think the point was, when facing a lurking bidder, the cost may go up only in the last 30-45 seconds, as people hope to snag the win, from someone hoping for a bargin. Choose your method and stick to it. I think part of this particular auction is that someone looking for a car, may not have an ebay id prior to bidding, and should hopefully be local. This car is pretty rare in Ohio, so it likely brought out some Eb*y newbies. (I find it hard to beleive ther are still newbies to Ebay ?) All that said, I can see potential for Everett's scam alert, and if I were an interested party, i would be questioning this. As the way it goes, I imagine the seller will take an side offer from one of those bidders (if they are real). He is getting very fair offer @ $5000+ Then he will have no Eb*y commission either! my $0.37 ! with $ 0.25 listing fee and 2.5% : < ) -John 69 fastbacks 1 from yah*o auction's, 1 from e-b*y auction's you just dont see them in the classified's much around here! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/