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> > Are you sure they are Torx? I thought Torx was a US design > and not metric. > There's a much older metric head that looks like a Torx but > it's called an XZN. Yes, the ones I picked up are Torx. They are new stock ordered from Motor City Fastener. They are actually readily available now since most fasteners used in automotive are now metric standards. Not all, but most. > > > I hope you are planning on keeping Sophy for the rest of > your life. You > > Detroit engineers sure like to use those torx's that the mechanic's > > hate. Yes we do. They have a low profile head that makes them easier to package. Probably the biggest reason is for assembly. They are easy to use with automated equipment and the installation tool does not need to be larger in diameter that the fastener. Especially important with how tightly cars are packaged these days. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI Auto Fasty (Jane) '66 Square (Sophy) About Half a Late Square (Organ Donor) http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/jaransonT3/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org