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Re: [T3] Lots of smoke


On 8 Aug 2003 at 8:54, Heather Woltz wrote:

> I will check again today, are the connectors supposed
> to be soldered originally?

No, they are crimped, but none of us will have access to the proper commercial 
crimpers to do an appropriate job of this.

> > > I checked all the gas lines around the engine
> > > including the entire fuel ring return line and
> > feed
> > > line...i even checked the fuel injector base thing
> > > tightened all that down, the only other thing that
> > > looks like it could be leaking is the tube that
> > goes
> > > from the breather thing to the dipstick tube...

It would not be unusual for that to be dripping a bit, but it should be oil, 
not gas, and it should not be all that much. Can I assume that there is still a 
hose around that joint?

> > You keep coming back to this, so I guess I have to
> > ask: Is this right above the 
> > wet spot that you find on the ground?
> 
> Yes, when i feel from underneath there is gas dripping
> off of the breather pipe, but only the  bottom of it
> where the tube that connects to the dipstick tube is
> wet and obviously i travels down the DS tube. But it
> is also all over the bottom heater box tin 

I assume you mean the right heater box. Okay, but the heater boxes would be 
quite a bit outboard from the breather plumbing. Perhaps you just also have a 
leaky right valve cover gasket.

> > Does yours run all
> > the time that the key is 
> > ON?  

> Well, here the other bad part of my situation. I
> really dont have an ignition switch. Someone put a
> toggle switch in to start the car....basially hot
> wired it. I found the fuel pump relay and treid it the
> way its supposed to be wired in and the white
> connector with the blue and the wblue and white
> striped wire (terminal 85 and 86) doesnt seem to be
> getting the resitance it needed....so Ive just hooked
> the fuel pump up to the the 2 termainals that go to
> the engine like in the idiots guide T2. this is the
> only way the pump will run and seems to work. so wheni
> start it I just plug everything in and then start
> it....I really hate to do this but at this point i
> need to get it running as the city is already on my
> butt.

It's probably important to find out why the blue and white wire don't make your 
pump run. They should. If they don't, it probably means that somethings 
disconnected somewhere, and you're bypassing this circuitry to get it to work. 
That is fine in a way, if just to get the car going temporarily, but it may 
also be hiding some important clues to your engine problem.

Those 2 wires carry power and ground to the fuel pump relay.

The blue/yel wire carries power from the FI main power relay under the back 
seat. Look for it there and make sure it is connected. This wire should carry 
12V any time the key is ON.

The white wire provides a ground. It runs to the brain, which senses engine 
rotation and only provides a ground under the proper circumstances, which are 
any time the engine is turning, or within ~1 second of turning the key ON. This 
white wire connects into the FI wiring harness in the engine compartment. There 
is a plastic inline connector against the front "wall" in front of the engine, 
just to the left of the intake air distributor. When new, this inline connector 
was cable tied to the rest of the wiring harness there.

You should be able to look at the relay end of each wire with a VOM and 
determine which is not giving you the proper signal.

> BTW would it help if i video taped the engine running?
> and/or pictures of the setup that ive done?

If you wanted to mail me a tape that might help, but it's unlikely that it 
would show your "smoking gun." It would just be too hard to get the detail 
necessary, and I suspect that we'd have to be very lucky to get just the right 
camera angle to catch the culprit.

Please don't send me any pictures or movies via email. I use a dialup 
connection and try to spend minimal time actually connected.

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Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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