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Lee is right. I've heard many times to call and ask for Steve or Bill, yet I haven't tried it. I will next time I need something and see what happens. Bill and Steves has always been supportive of the type 3 scene and to host a get together with FREE food shows that they are true enthusists. Two thumbs up for Bill and Steve, two thumbs down for the guys they hire. Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org