Re: [T3] Early engines

["Jason Weigel" <notchboy@cox.net>]

Pardon me if I try to answer all in one post as oposed to breaking it out
over several. I dont know about the engine number but I do know it is early.
Jim knows as he has the microfish. If you truly have a "compleet" early
longblock it has more in common with a 40 hoarse bus motor than a T3. The
intakes are flat and not angled as on later single ports. This makes for the
manifold being flat and unique to the early motors. The later regular
"common" angled manifolds are easy to find and pop up on the samba or at
swaps usualy with carbs with them. Air cleaners on the other hand are very
simular to FI ones and usually end up in the same bin to be left to rot
away. Finding one may be hard. The Y bolt that holds the cleaner down is the
same or simular as on FI cars, the body to cleaner section can be used as
well. You are spot on in noticing that the single port tin on your 65 is
different than what can fit in the bay of a 61-63. This is because the metal
in the bay was widened in 64 to accomodate the dual carb set-up. The extra
space is needed to adjust the carbs. Conciquently the tin that covers the
intake area was widened as well. I have tons of pics I just posted to the
samba reguarding all these and more unique differances on a unmolested early
motor. One of the major reasons I bought the car just recently. Look deep
into my photos as I have alot of info pics you need posted. Jim you take a
look as well as there is shots of a unrestored, untouched early 62 motor.
And you can see the engine bay restraints.

http://thesamba.com/vw/gallery/index.mv?search+Jason%20Weigel+exact

See above link.

jason

> Hi all
>
> I need some help on early engines I have a late November 61 T34 (chassis
> 0002910).  Its original sidedraft carb engine was no 3120 but it now has a
> slightly later one with engine number TR 172401.
>
> Questions are as follows
>
> 1  - when was the engine made - without the TR prefix I would have but it
as
> pre August 63 (it is a side draft engine)
>
> 2 - the manifold on the engine is mangled - any good sources of
replacements
> in the UK  (None with T3D at present) - presume I need to be careful it
fits
> the right heads and isn't coked up, were early heads similar to1200cc's?
> 3 - as a bove who could supply a good correct air cleaner and retaining
> strap?
> 4 - finally the tinwear that goes over the cylinder heads seems to be
> different to that on my 65 model, in that at its leading edge there isn't
a
> piece that drops down through 90 degrees  - links to good pictures of
> engines would be useful.
>

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